e m kraak schreef op donderdag 12 november 2009, 0:54:
> Piet schreef op woensdag 11 november 2009, 15:45:
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>> Cindy Helms schreef op woensdag 11 november 2009, 10:38:

> Kun je ook klikkeren, want het gaat niet om de oefening van
> alle preciese wijkjes-voor-druk maar om het resultaat.
> Klikker veel makkelijker dan alle mogelijke deuren en raampjes
> van een tram open en dicht doen.
Tamelijk toepasselijk stukje op een maillijst:
Kind of an odd perspective - but I started using clicker training with my
horse because he knew a lot more than I did when I started riding him and I
wanted a way to communicate with him that was clearer than my confusing
seat/hand/leg cues. The stock negative reinforcement way to train is ask for
something and when you get it, quit asking. So exactly how was my horse
supposed to know whether my ceasing to push him sideways with my weight was
because he had done what I wanted (fall out through his outside shoulder) -
or because I had given up futilely asking for something I was not getting
(leg yield)?
My dressage instructor wasn't a big believer in clicker training, but she
was willing to tell me when she could see a couple of steps of what we were
trying to get. So this evolved into a kind of odd version of TAG teaching -
the instructor would tell me when I had reached my "tag point" and then I
would click and treat. This drove her nuts because then the horse would
stop. But I liked it because 1) I had mental snapshots of what we were
trying to do (so how did it feel just as she said "there"?) and 2) my horse
would volunteer leg yield if I got even close to asking for it - so I got
more opportunities to practice what it should feel like.